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11-04-2009, 03:43 PM
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IMO - and I hope I am wrong
First of all, IMO, we can only "hope" to keep Manny and probably Harris here for four years. And depending upon how Bol gets going, it might be hard to keep him here for even 3 years. Therefore redshirting either of them does not make any since.
KO, Stockton and Dower make since, but only if they want to. If not the coaches may try working the scenario of waves and try and tire the other team out. If you have 10/11 players playing in 5 - 7 minute waves for the first 33 minutes and then which ever set of players are playing the best plays the last 7 minutes. This would wear your opponents down so that you can take advantage of your strengths in the end game.
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11-04-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishZag
Nobody has stated the most obvious choice. Redshirt Bouldin.
Then in 2010-11 we win the national championship and Matt Bouldin is Consensus All-American Player of the Year.
Flawless Victory! Remember patience is a virtue.
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How about redshirting Coach Few. He can work on his coaching and come back ready to lead us to the NBA champ.
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11-04-2009, 04:14 PM
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Only makes sense..
I think it is obvious that Sam and Kelly both should and will redshirt as will David Stockton. I would be floored if they redshirted GJ...absolutely floored because he looked like a serious player to me. Seems like we can be fine up front with Sacre, Big Will, Poling and Harris...the guys like Arop and Kong will be playing upfront or on the wing as well. Bouldin can play the wing or 2 guard...Gray will be primarily the 2 guard. Meech should be starting at the point with GJ providing solid minutes. Gibbs will float around at different spots which means we have 11 guys getting minutes already.
The talent is ridiculous on this squad but the few minutes that guys like Olynyk, Dower and Stockton would get this season would be easily trumped by the redshirt year to add strength and knowledge of the team concepts.
Ultimately I would be shocked if they didn't redshirts Sam and Kelly both....
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11-04-2009, 04:17 PM
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Its Sam. BobZag confirmed in a different thread.
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11-04-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthWestZag
The strategy should be to redshirt as many guys as we can afforded.
How many people are glad we RS Heytvelt? That Sweet 16 Team last season probably would not have happened if Few didn't do that.
We can't redshirt Kong, Andy, or Gibbs.
We should definitely redshirt Kelly and Dower. Possibly Arop too if Kong is healthy. The rotation can really be 9-deep max.
G-Meech
G-Gray
G-Bouldin
F-Harris
C-Sacre
6-Villarno
7-Kong
8-Gibbs
9-Poling
10-Big Will
The rotation should look something like that. And we can always pull reshirts off guys because of injury. But I think Kelly and Dower are automatic, and I would love to see Arop here for 5 years.
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I would make a little bit of change to this because I don't think Gibbs will play very much at all.
PG - Meech, SG - Gray, SF - Bouldin, PF - Harris, C - Sacre
Main Backups - Vilarino (PG/SG), Arop (SF), Kong (SF/PF), Poling (PF/C)
Situational Minutes - Gibbs (PG/SG/SF) and Foster (C)
Redshirts - Dower, Olynyk, Stockton, Kid from Portland (can't remember his name)....
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11-04-2009, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Vulture
I would make a little bit of change to this because I don't think Gibbs will play very much at all.
PG - Meech, SG - Gray, SF - Bouldin, PF - Harris, C - Sacre
Main Backups - Vilarino (PG/SG), Arop (SF), Kong (SF/PF), Poling (PF/C)
Situational Minutes - Gibbs (PG/SG/SF) and Foster (C)
Redshirts - Dower, Olynyk, Stockton, Kid from Portland (can't remember his name)....
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This is how it should turn out but the one thing that has burned us in the past is Injuries. KO can essentialy play four positions and we might benefit from that perspective as well as his play on the court. I really like the idea of staggering our talent but either way it'll be fun to see it play out.
Go Zags!!
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11-04-2009, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Vulture
I don't think Gibbs will play very much at all.
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I'll take that bet.
Grant Gibbs is a gamer. He plays physical on both ends and has an understanding of the offense and I believe Coach and staff have a higher opinion of his ability than yours.
He reminds me of a combination Blake and Pendo and I think he'll earn his PT.
Go!! Zags!!!
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11-04-2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bigblahla
I'll take that bet.
Grant Gibbs is a gamer. He plays physical on both ends and has an understanding of the offense and I believe Coach and staff have a higher opinion of his ability than yours.
He reminds me of a combination Blake and Pendo and I think he'll earn his PT.
Go!! Zags!!!
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Don't forget he will also be one of our better three point shooters too. He will get playing time this year. Especially in conference play I would bet.
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11-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigblahla
I'll take that bet.
Grant Gibbs is a gamer. He plays physical on both ends and has an understanding of the offense and I believe Coach and staff have a higher opinion of his ability than yours.
He reminds me of a combination Blake and Pendo and I think he'll earn his PT.
Go!! Zags!!!
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Everyone has a role and Grant has his. He gives great effort and the coaches will put him in a position to succeed. I think he gets some playing time as well.
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Forget the Poly Anna crap. This team is going to kick butt.
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11-05-2009, 03:03 PM
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I like Grant...
It's not a knock on his talent as to why I don't see him getting alot of minutes this year. I just think that he is the 3rd option at PG and the 3rd option at SG on this particular squad. In fact, I think Grant will be a very good player for us down the road. I just think that with the makeup of this team that some games he will play many minutes and some games he will hardly play. This is more a reflection on the talent level above him and the fact that he plays in the backcourt where he is behind guys like Goodson, Gray, and Bouldin. I also think GJ will be ahead of him due to his ability to play the point.
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11-05-2009, 04:37 PM
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Olynyk is not likely to redshirt. Just Sam.
In an ideal world, it would be nice to redshirt both, but Gonzaga needs another offensively skilled player with size and length in the rotation. If forced to choose between the two, I think Olynyk is the right choice because of his versatility and his proven ability to put up numbers against U.S. college players at FIBA this summer.
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11-05-2009, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CDC84
Olynyk is not likely to redshirt. Just Sam.
In an ideal world, it would be nice to redshirt both, but Gonzaga needs another offensively skilled player with size and length in the rotation. If forced to choose between the two, I think Olynyk is the right choice because of his versatility and his proven ability to put up numbers against U.S. college players at FIBA this summer.
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+1!
For those that haven't had the opportunity to see Kelly, watch this, BUT KEEP THE VOLUMN DOWN IF YOU'RE EASILY OFFENDED:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYfHUkEmG0
This video gives you an idea of what this young man will be showing us THIS year and the years following. Yes, it's a high school highlight video, but you can't argue with the touch from 3 pt range, the passing, the D, the behind the back dribble, the drop pass, the...
I'm telling you, this young man will be putting up triple doubles in points, rebounds and assists.
Go ZAGS!
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11-05-2009, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DADoZAG
+1!
For those that haven't had the opportunity to see Kelly, watch this, BUT KEEP THE VOLUMN DOWN IF YOU'RE EASILY OFFENDED:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYfHUkEmG0
This video gives you an idea of what this young man will be showing us THIS year and the years following. Yes, it's a high school highlight video, but you can't argue with the touch from 3 pt range, the passing, the D, the behind the back dribble, the drop pass, the...
I'm telling you, this young man will be putting up triple doubles in points, rebounds and assists.
Go ZAGS!
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I can't help but consider Kelly a mix between Mike Dunleavy(Duke) and Daniel Kirkert(St. Marys). A highly skilled and scoring combo-forward. Watch out America!
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